Letter PAMHO:2113757 (47 lines)

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      22-Feb-99 06:26

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   Obeisances

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To begin this conference, I first offer my humble and respectful obeisances to my beloved spiritual master, His Divine Grace A.C. Bhaktivedanta Swami Prabhupada, founder-acarya of ISKCON and author of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is."

 

I next offer my respectful obeisances to all the previous acaryas in the disciplic succession through which this book has been received.

 

I offer my respectful obeisances to Srila Bhaktivinoda Thakura, who composed and published a rendering of Bhagavad-gita into Bengali that Srila Prabhupada surely consulted.

 

I offer my respectful obeisances unto Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana, the author of the "Gita Bhusana" commentary. It is to him that Srila Prabhupada dedicates "Bhagavad-gita As It Is," and Srila Prabhupada mentions his comments several times in the text.

 

I offer my respectful obeisances to Srila Visvanatha Cakravarti Thakura, author of the "Sarartha Varsani" Gita commentary. Srila Prabhupada has told us that a comment, in this book, about following the orders of the spiritual master guided Srila Prabhupada in his own life.

 

Next I offer my respects to the original editors of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is." As I have written elsewhere, "the editors of the first edition are to be praised. They did a fine job of making a tough manuscript ready to print."

 

My respectful obeisances, also, to all the devotees involved in publishing and distributing "Bhagavad-gita As It Is" in many different languages of the world.

 

I offer my respectful obeisances to all who read and study "Bhagavad-gita As It Is." As stated in Bhagavad-gita itself, they worship Lord Krsna by their intelligence.

 

And finally I offer my obeisances to the lotus feet of Lord Sri Krsna, the Supreme Personality of Godhead, the original speaker of Bhagavad-gita.

 

By the grace of Lord Sri Krsna and His devotees, may we all gain a deeper and clearer understanding of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is."

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

Jayadvaita Swami

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Text PAMHO:2114976 (62 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      22-Feb-99 19:33

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   The format for texts in this conference

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Generally, the texts in this conference will follow the following format:

 

1ST: [Text from the First Edition (1972), originally

published by the Macmillan Company.]

 

2ND: [The corresponding text from the Second Edition.]

 

MS: [The text from the original manuscripts.]

 

COMMENTS: My comments.

 

 

A few words of explanation:

 

"Original manuscripts" means different things, according to different Gita chapters. For the first five or six chapters, it refers to original manuscripts apparently typed by Srila Prabhupada himself. For the middle six chapters, it refers to the original transcriptions of his tapes. And for the last chapters it refers to the old retyped manuscripts from which the 1972 Macmillan edition was produced. In all cases, "original manuscripts" means the oldest and most reliable manuscripts in the BBT files.

 

The "retyped manuscripts" for the last six chapters were copied from original transcriptions on which much editing had already been done. The typist followed the edited version, adding what the editor had added and deleting what he had deleted. Sometime before 1972, the original transcriptions themselves were apparently lost. (This loss is why the revisions in the last six chapters of the Second Edition are particularly light.)

 

The text of the manuscripts for all eighteen chapters has been converted into digital form, and for convenience while traveling I am relying on the digital version. If this results in any significant errors that later come to my attention, I shall report them.

 

Thank you. Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

 

 

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SUBSCRIPTION AND COPYRIGHT INFORMATION

 

This is an "information-only" conference, not a discussion conference. The only person who can post texts to it is me. (Queries and comments may be sent to me privately.)

 

The conference is public. If you are a member of COM, the BBT e-mail system, you can join or leave it on your own--no need to send a request to the Sysop or to me. E-mail users who are not on COM can join or leave the conference by sending me a request at <jayadvaita.swami@com.bbt.se>.

 

The First and Second Editions of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is" are © 1972, 1983 by The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. The contents of this message, and of the conference as a whole, are © 1999 by The Bhaktivedanta Book Trust. All rights reserved.

 

Hare Krsna.

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New Text 4883 (31 lines)

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      24-Feb-99 10:42

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   Announcement of the conference

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Gita Revisions Explained

 

 

In this conference, I shall present and discuss some of the more interesting, instructive, and controversial revisions made for the Second Edition of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is."

 

Unlike comparisons published elsewhere, these discussions will include comparisons to the original unpublished manuscripts. (You can expect to see, as in Krsna's universal form, "many wonderful things which no one has ever seen or heard of before.")

 

I shall usually publish examples one at a time, one example per message. The messages will appear as often as I have the time and inspiration to write them. In any case, there won't be more than one a day.

 

This is an "information-only" conference, not a discussion conference. The only person who can post texts to it is me. (Queries and comments may be sent to me privately.)

 

The conference is public. If you are a member of COM, you can join it on your own--no need to send a request to the Sysop or to me. E-mail users who are not on COM can join the conference by sending me a request at <jayadvaita.swami@com.bbt.se>.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

Your servant,

Jayadvaita Swami

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Text PAMHO:2120226 (72 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      24-Feb-99 11:02

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   10.31, purport: Lord Rama, "of the Ramayana"

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Bhagavad-gita 10.31

 

pavanah pavatam asmi

ramah sastra-bhrtam aham

jhasanam makaras casmi

srotasam asmi jahnavi

 

TRANSLATION: Of purifiers I am the wind, of the wielders of weapons I am Rama, of fishes I am the shark, and of flowing rivers I am the Ganges.

 

 

PURPORT:

 

1ST EDITION:    Of all the aquatics the shark is one of the biggest and is certainly the most dangerous to man. Thus the shark represents Krsna. Lord Ramacandra, of the Ramayana, an incarnation of Krsna, is the mightiest of warriors.

 

2ND EDITION:    Of all the aquatics the shark is one of the biggest and is certainly the most dangerous to man. Thus the shark represents Krsna. [end of purport.]

 

MANUSCRIPT:     Of all the acquatics especially fish the shark-fish is the biggest amongst them and some of the shark-fish are dangerous to humankind also, but the shark-fish is amongst the fish. [end of purport.]

 

COMMENT:

 

The shark may be a dangerous fish, but the locution "of the Ramayana" at once alerted me that something else fishy was going on. Is Lord Ramacandra a character from a book, like Alice "of Alice in Wonderland"? Sure enough, in the original manuscript the text about Lord Ramacandra doesn't appear; it seems to have been added by the editor.

 

For certain, the editor of the First Edition was trying to be helpful. But sometimes we are better off without help. The word "rama" may of course refer to Lord Ramacandra--or to Balarama, or even to Krsna Himself. Nonetheless, our sampradaya acaryas comment here that "rama" refers to--whom? Lord Parasurama.

 

 

 

 

Hare Krsna.

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New Text 4895 (81 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      26-Feb-99 11:52

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   4.34, purport: "Nor by independent study of books. . . "

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4.34, purport (right after the Sanskrit quotation "dharmam tu saksad bhagavat-pranitam):

 

 

FIRST EDITION:  Therefore, mental speculation or dry arguments cannot help one progress in spiritual life.  One has to approach a bona fide spiritual master to receive the knowledge.

 

SECOND EDITION:  Therefore, mental speculation or dry arguments cannot help lead one to the right path. Nor by independent study of books of knowledge can one progress in spiritual life. One has to approach a bona fide spiritual master to receive the knowledge.

 

MANUSCRIPT:  Therefore mental speculation or dry arguments cannot lead one to the right path.Neither by  self study of the book of knowledge can help one progress in spiritual life.One has to approach therefore a bonafide spiritual master for receiving the knowledge.

 

COMMENT: According to a message I received not long ago from a correspondent in Bangalore, some devotees there were pointing to this revision as evidence that "Bhagavad-gita As It Is" is not really "as it is." The critics pointed out that the original 1972 edition did not contain the sentence about the inability to progress by independent study of books. The sentence had been added by the GBC (so the critics charged) to support a guru system never desired by Srila Prabhupada.

 

I take such criticism as a sign that restoring this sentence from Srila Prabhupada's manuscript was worth doing.

 

By the way: How did the missing portion go missing? Here's a guess. Suppose the original editor did the text this way: "Therefore, mental speculation or dry arguments cannot HELP lead one to the right path. Nor can independent study of books of knowledge HELP one progress in spiritual life." [capitals supplied] If you jump from the first HELP to the second, leaving out everything between--a very common sort of typist's error--you get precisely what was published in the First Edition.

 

The First Edition was typeset on a now-extinct "IBM Composer" on which each typeset line had to be typed twice, making this sort of error even more likely.  When you notice that in the First Edition the word HELP comes at the end of a line, you can figure that you've pretty well solved the case: The typesetting person left out one complete line. The Second Edition restores it.

 

This fix illustrates the sort of work done for the Second Edition of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is." And the response to it illustrates how an over-suspicious mind and a hyperactive imagination can turn a typist's error into an international conspiracy.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

New Text 4913 (84 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      27-Feb-99 15:47

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   1.32-35:  "Kill or be killed"? / "creature comforts" /  missing line

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1.32-35, translation:

 

"O Govinda, of what avail to us are a kingdom, happiness or even life itself when all those for whom we may desire them are now arrayed on this battlefield? O Madhusudana, when teachers, fathers, sons, grandfathers, maternal uncles, fathers-in-law, grandsons, brothers-in-law and other relatives are ready to give up their lives and properties and are standing before me, why should I wish to kill them, even though they might otherwise kill me? O maintainer of all living entities, I am not prepared to fight with them even in exchange for the three worlds, let alone this earth. What pleasure will we derive from killing the sons of Dhrtarastra?"

 

 

1ST EDITION: Why should I wish to kill them, though I may survive?

 

2ND EDITION: Why should I wish to kill them, even though they might otherwise kill me?

 

MANUSCRIPT: why shall I wish to kill them even though I may be killed by them.

 

COMMENT: The old version means roughly the opposite of what Srila Prabhupada (and Lord Krsna) said.

 

 

1ST EDITION: O maintainer of all creatures, . . .

 

2ND EDITION: O maintainer of all living entities, . . .

 

MANUSCRIPT: Oh the maintainer of all living entities, . . .

 

 

1ST EDITION: [nothing]

 

2ND EDITION: What pleasure will we derive from killing the sons of Dhrtarastra?

 

MANUSCRIPT: [nothing]

 

COMMENT: A line of Sanskrit has been left untranslated:

 

nihatya dhartarastra nah

ka pritih syaj janardana

 

It's there in the Sanskrit and in Srila Prabhupada's word for word. The omission clearly appears unintended. (And it's the sort of omission that scholars and professors notice.) Supplying such missing lines was routine work for the BBT Sanskrit editors on all of Srila Prabhupada's later books, a standard set by Pradyumna Dasa and appreciated by Srila Prabhupada. Here the supplied translation derives directly from Srila Prabhupada's word-for-word meanings.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

 

New Text 4948 (57 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      28-Feb-99 13:07

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   5.16, purport: Krsna consciousness drives away nescience

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5.16, purport:

 

1ST EDITION: Therefore, one has to seek out such a bona fide spiritual master and, under him, learn what Krsna consciousness is. The spiritual master can drive away all nescience, as the sun drives away darkness.

 

2ND EDITION: . . . learn what Krsna consciousness is, for Krsna consciousness will certainly drive away all nescience, [etc.]

 

MANUSCRIPT: Therefore, one has to find out such bona fide spiritual master who is  perfect Krsna consciousness and, has to learn under such benafide spiritual master what is Krsna consciousness. Such Krsna consciousness will certainly drive away all kinds o nescience, as the Sun drives away all kinds o darkness.

 

COMMENT:

 

What we find in the First Edition is philosophically all right. What we find in the Second Edition is what Srila Prabhupada said.

 

This revision is hardly worth mentioning. I bring it up only because some critics have cited it, seemingly as evidence that the Second Edition whittles away the importance of the spiritual master. As you can see, what the Second Edition actually does here is restores Srila Prabhupada's words.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

New Text 4966 (77 lines) [W0]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      03-Mar-99 02:20

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   9.26: "A leaf, a flower. . . " First paragraph of purport restored

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9.26:

patram puspam phalam to yam

yo me bhakt ya prayacchati

tad aham bhakt y-upahrtam

asnami prayatatmanah

 

If one offers Me with love and devotion a leaf, a flower, fruit or water, I will accept it.

 

 

 

Purport (first paragraph):

 

1ST EDITION: [nothing--the purport skips this paragraph]

 

2ND EDITION:

For the intelligent person, it is essential to be in Krsna consciousness, engaged in the transcendental loving service of the Lord, in order to achieve a permanent, blissful abode for eternal happiness. The process of achieving such a marvelous result is very easy and can be attempted even by the poorest of the poor, without any kind of qualification. The only qualification required in this connection is to be a pure devotee of the Lord. It does not matter what one is or where one is situated. The process is so easy that even a leaf or a little water or fruit can be offered to the Supreme Lord in genuine love and the Lord will be pleased to accept it. No one, therefore, can be barred from Krsna consciousness, because it is so easy and universal. Who is such a fool that he does not want to be Krsna conscious by this simple method and thus attain the highest perfectional life of eternity, bliss and knowledge? Krsna wants only loving service and nothing more. Krsna accepts even a little flower from His pure devotee. He does not want any kind of offering from a nondevotee. He is not in need of anything from anyone, because He is self-sufficient, and yet He accepts the offering of His devotee in an exchange of love and affection. To develop Krsna consciousness is the highest perfection of life. Bhakti is mentioned twice in this verse in order to declare more emphatically that bhakti, or devotional service, is the only means to approach Krsna. No other condition, such as becoming a brahmana. a learned scholar, a very rich man or a great philosopher, can induce Krsna to accept some offering. Without the basic principle of bhakti, nothing can induce the Lord to agree to accept anything from anyone. Bhakti is never causal. The process is eternal. It is direct action in service to the absolute whole.

 

COMMENT: I retrieved this missing paragraph from the 1968 Macmillan *abridged* edition.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

New Text 4968 (83 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      04-Mar-99 14:50

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   10:26: "Holy fig tree!"

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10.26.

 

asvathah sarva-vrksanam: "Of all trees I am the banyan tree."

 

 

 

WORD-FOR-WORD:

 

1ST AND 2ND EDITIONS: asvattha--the banyan tree; sarva-vrksanam--of all trees;

 

MANUSCRIPT: Asvatthah--the beginning trees, Sarvavrksanam--of all trees;

 

 

 

TRANSLATION:

 

1ST EDITION: Of all trees I am the holy fig tree. . .

 

2ND EDITION: Of all trees I am the banyan tree. . .

 

MANUSCRIPT:     I am the beginning tree amongst all the trees;

 

 

PURPORT:

 

1ST EDITION: The fig tree (asvattha) is one of the most beautiful and highest trees, and people in India often worship it as one of their daily morning rituals.

 

2ND EDITION: The banyan tree (asvattha) is one of the highest and most beautiful trees, [etc.]

 

MANUSCRIPT: Brilliant tree is the most beautiful and the highest tree, therefore brilliant tree is the presentation of Krishna. In India people in general worship Indian tree as one of the daily morning rituals.

 

COMMENT: Botanists classify the banyan tree as a species of fig. People in India, however, do not worship fig trees in general; they worship the banyan.

Though the banyan is "the holy fig tree" and tulasi is "the holy basil," people worship the banyan tree and the tulasi plant, not figs and basils.

Clearly, "beginning tree," "brilliant tree," and "Indian tree" are all mis-transcriptions of "banyan tree."

See also Bhagavad-gita 15.1, which speaks of a banyan (not fig) tree with its roots up and branches down.

 

More about 10.26 in our next message.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

Text PAMHO:2139838 (84 lines) [W0]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      06-Mar-99 16:49

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   10.26 (continued): "The perpetually living entities"

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10.26:

 

 

asvatthah sarva-vrksanam

devarsinam ca naradah

gandharvanam citrarathah

siddhanam kapilo munih

 

Of all trees I am the banyan tree, and of the sages among the demigods I am Narada. Of the Gandharvas I am Citraratha, and among perfected beings I am the sage Kapila.

 

 

 

 

10.26, translation:

 

1ST EDITION: . . . and amongst sages and demigods I am Narada.

 

2ND EDITION: . . . and of the sages among the demigods I am Narada.

 

MANUSCRIPT: I am Narada amongst all the sages of demigods,

 

COMMENT: No big deal here, but "sage among the demigods" was Srila Prabhupada's standard translation.

 

 

10.26, purport:

 

1ST EDITION:   Amongst the perpetually living entities, Kapila is considered an incarnation of Krsna, and His philosophy is mentioned in Srimad-Bhagavatam.

 

2ND EDITION:  Amongst the perfect living entities, Kapila, the son of Devahuti, is a representative of Krsna. He is considered an incarnation of Krsna, [etc.]

 

MANUSCRIPT: Amongst the perpetually living entities, Kapila, the son of Katumuni is the presentation of Krishna. Katumuni is considered incarnation of Krishna. And his philosophy is mentioned in the Srimad Bhagwatam.

 

COMMENT: "Perpetually living entities"? *All* living entities are perpetually living. The Gita text here is siddhanam kapilo munih: "Among the perfect [Srila Prabhupada would usually say "perfected"] living entities I am Kapila." So "perpetually living entities" is clearly a mis-hearing.

Looking at the manuscript again: the Second Edition should certainly have said "son of Kardama Muni" rather than "son of Devahuti." (I don't know how I missed that.) But either name--that of His mother or His father--serves Srila Prabhupada's purpose of distinguishing the genuine Lord Kapiladeva from the atheist. In the First Edition, neither parent is mentioned.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

 

Text PAMHO:2141159 (46 lines) [W0]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      07-Mar-99 06:33

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Comment:   Text PAMHO:2141294 by Madhava (das) BRS (Chowpatty, Bombay - IN)

Subject:   1.11, purport: "forced to strip"?

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1.11, purport:

 

1ST EDITION: being forced to strip naked

 

2ND EDITION: being forced to appear naked

 

MANUSCRIPT: being forced to become naked

 

COMMENT: Draupadi was not forced to strip.

 

I suppose I could have edited this further--"while the attempt was being made to force her to appear naked"--but I didn't. I'm not sure, now, whether I was being conservative or just lazy. Anyway, I chose to do the minimum: get rid of "strip."

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

 

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From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      07-Mar-99 11:29

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   7.4: Altogether the wrong word

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7.4:

 

bhumir apo 'nalo vayuh

kham mano buddhir eva ca

ahankara itiyam me

bhinna prakrtir astadha

 

Earth, water, fire, air, ether, mind, intelligence and false ego--all together these eight constitute My separated material energies.

 

 

 

7.4, translation:

 

1ST EDITION: . . . altogether these eight. . .

 

2ND EDITION: . . . all together these eight. . .

 

COMMENT: A matter of English. The word "altogether" is altogether the wrong word. "The Random House Dictionary" explains: "The forms ALTOGETHER and ALL TOGETHER, though often indistinguishable in speech, are distinct in meaning. The adverb ALTOGETHER means 'wholly, entirely, completely': an altogether confused report. The phrase ALL TOGETHER means 'in a group': The children were all together in the kitchen." ALL the eight elements TOGETHER constitute the Lord's material energies.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

Text PAMHO:2189368 (65 lines) [W1]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      16-Mar-99 13:04

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Cc:        Varnasrama development

Bcc:       krishna@all.com.au

Comment:   Text PAMHO:2190468 by WWW: Janesvara (Dasa) ACBSP (Syracuse - USA) <jdf1@stsi.net>

Comment:   Text PAMHO:2199781 by Sucharya (dd) ACBSP (IC North Carolina - USA)

Subject:   2.31, purport: "Editing varnasrama-dharma out of the books?"

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2.31, purport (last sentence):

 

[NOTE: I have capitalized the relevant portions, to make them stand out.]

 

 

1ST EDITION: Discharging one's specific duty in any field of action in accordance with VARNASRAMA-DHARMA serves to elevate one to a higher status of life.

 

2ND EDITION: Discharging one's specific duty in any field of action in accordance with THE ORDERS OF HIGHER AUTHORITIES serves to elevate one to a higher status of life.

 

MANUSCRIPT: To discharge one's specific duty in any field of action and AS ORDERED BY HIGHER AUTHORITY is the opportunity for being elevated in higher status of life.

 

COMMENT: This revision seems to have become a topic in the "Varnasrama Development" conference on COM, under the subject heading "Editing varnasrama-dharma out of the books?" As you can see, the answer is "No. Restoring what Srila Prabhupada said."

 

By the way, I could have further edited the sentence from the First Edition to bring it still closer to Srila Prabhupada's words. But my goal was to keep the sentence from the First Edition nearly intact and yet still restore Srila Prabhupada's point. I believe the revision does that.

 

Hare Krsna.

 

 

PS for members of the "Varnasrama Development" conference: "MANUSCRIPT" refers to the original manuscript of "Bhagavad-gita As It Is," which for this chapter was apparently typed by Srila Prabhupada himself.

 

 

Text PAMHO:2191802 (120 lines) [W0]

From:      Jayadvaita Swami

Date:      28-Mar-99 05:09

To:        Gita Revisions Explained

Subject:   4.34: Surrendering to the spiritual master

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4.34

 

 

tad viddhi pranipatena

pariprasnena sevaya

upadeksyanti te jnanam

jnaninas tatt va-darsinah

 

tat—that knowledge of different sacrifices; viddhi—try to understand; pranipatena—by approaching a spiritual master; pariprasnena—by submissive inquiries; sevaya—by the rendering of service; upadeksyanti—they will initiate; te—you; jnanam—into knowledge; jnaninah—the self-realized; tattva—of the truth; darsinah—seers.

 

BOTH EDITIONS: Just try to learn the truth by approaching a spiritual master. Inquire from him submissively and render service unto him.

 

1ST EDITION: . . . The self-realized soul can impart knowledge unto you because he has seen the truth.

 

2ND EDITION: . . . The self-realized souls can impart knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.

 

MANUSCRIPT: Just try to know the truth of all these by approacing self realised spiritual master with all submission, enquiries and rendering service unto Him. Such learned self realised spiritual master initiates knowledge unto you because they have seen the truth.